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Christine O’Donnell: Don’t ask me about my views about homosexuality, I’m not running for office. (Even though she wrote about it in her book, and promotion of her book is the reason she’s doing this interview.)

Michelle Bachmann: Don’t ask me about my views about homosexuality, I’m running for president.

So, which is it Tea Party? Only ask you about your views on homosexuality if you are running for office or only if you’re not running for office? I suppose the silver lining here is that both of them understand that their views on homosexuality are a liability and they’re better off avoiding the issue on camera.

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After watching this video over at Friendly Atheist, full of fake Christian persecution…

… I almost have to wonder if this is the way the Christian Right would go about killing school arts programs:

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This is a weird story from NPR, since they seem to be trying to play-up the whole Christian victimization thing that’s popular on conservative media.

It’s no secret who gave money for and against the controversial amendment to the state’s constitution, known as Proposition 8. California’s secretary of state publicized the lists of contributors, which were picked up by local media and Web sites.

In Sacramento, the owners of Leatherby’s Family Creamery found themselves part of the backlash when The Sacramento Bee printed the list of contributors. Dave Leatherby, a devout Roman Catholic father of 10, says he was responding to a direct request from his bishop to give generously.

“We gave $20,000 for Yes on Proposition 8,” he says.

And once that was known, retaliation was swift. “We soon started getting very nasty e-mails and letters and phone calls by the hundreds,” he says.

Leatherby says he was mystified, because the Creamery had always enjoyed good relations with the gay and lesbian community.

Wow. Leatherby was mystified by the backlash? Donating $20,000 is going to identify you as an extremist. The fact that he previously had good relations with the gay and lesbian communities probably made his donation seem like an even bigger betrayal. It astounds me that the guy can act surprised that the gay community reacted. I also liked how he tried to defer responsibility by saying, “he was responding to a direct request from his bishop to give generously” – as if he had no responsibility in that decision; he was just taking marching orders.

I couldn’t help but imagine this scenario reinterpreted in a 1950s context:

In Macon Georgia, the owners of Leatherby’s Family Creamery found themselves part of the backlash when local paper printed the list of contributors. Dave Leatherby, a devout Roman Catholic father of 10, says he was responding to a direct request from his bishop to give generously.

“We gave $20,000 for Yes on Segregation,” he says.

And once that was known, retaliation was swift. “We soon started getting very nasty e-mails and letters and phone calls by the hundreds,” he says.

Leatherby says he was mystified, because the Creamery had always enjoyed good relations with the African-American community.

“This seems to be an effort to indiscriminately go after anyone who contributed money, regardless of their position on gay issues,” says Frank Schubert, spokesman for the Yes on 8 campaign.

Wha? “indiscriminately go after anyone who contributed money”? Isn’t that a contradiction? The fact that someone gave money to support Proposition 8 tells you a lot about their “position on gay issues”.

He says the backlash has endangered individuals who exercised their constitutional right to freedom of religion.

Assuming, of course, that “has endangered individuals” means “boycotts businesses” (not violence), and “exercising their constitutional right to freedom of religion” actually means “imposing beliefs on other people”. But, hey, maybe their religion requires them to impose their beliefs on everyone else, and so, any attempt to stop religious people from imposing their beliefs on me is actually “restricting their exercise of their religion”. My religion requires me to slash car tires. Anyone attempting to stop me is guilty of restricting my constitutional freedoms.

Another 1950s reinterpretation:

“This seems to be an effort to indiscriminately go after anyone who contributed money to support segregation, regardless of their position on minority issues,” says Frank Schubert, spokesman for the Yes on Segregation campaign. He says the backlash has endangered individuals who exercised their constitutional right to freedom of religion – a religion that required them to view Black people as inferior.

I always like how “boycotting” is interpreted as evil bullying when done by gay activists or liberals, but it’s a perfectly decent thing to do when done by conservatives. For example, Boycotts of Disney, Pepsi:

[In 1996] the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC), disturbed at Disney’s equal treatment of heterosexuals, bisexuals and homosexuals, threatened a boycott. Later that year, the Assemblies of God started an independent boycott. It was motivated by a wide range of concerns: a book, a movie, and theme park policies. In 1997, the SBC initiated its boycott. This was joined by a number of other agencies and denominations: one Muslim, two Jewish, one mainline Christian denomination and dozens of conservative Christian faith groups. By 2001-MAR, these boycotts remained in place, but are not particularly visible in the media. (Source)

Yeah, you read that right: they were disturbed by equal treatment. Good God, what next? Equal treatment of Black people, too? Whites and Blacks drinking from the same water fountain? Women getting equal pay for equal work?

And Pepsi:

“The American Family Association” is now targeting Pepsi for what the AFA calls not “remaining neutral in the culture war.” The American Family Association routinely announces boycotts of corporations that have made gay-friendly advertising, employment, or charity decisions. (Source)

Original Story: NPR – Backers Of Calif. Gay Marriage Ban Face Backlash

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Christian and Gay

[Via ExChristian.net] Ray Boltz, a Christian singer recently came-out as gay:

Ray Boltz, who sold about 4.5 million records before retiring from Christian music a few years ago, came out of the closet Friday to announce that he’s gay.

In an interview with the gay magazine The Washington Blade, Boltz said he came out to his family and some close friends in December 2004, but only now decided to go public with the news.

“I’d denied it ever since I was a kid,” Boltz, 55, told the magazine. “I became a Christian, I thought that was the way to deal with this and I prayed hard and tried for 30-some years and then at the end, I was just going, ‘I’m still gay. I know I am.’ And I just got to the place where I couldn’t take it anymore … when I was going through all this darkness, I thought, ‘Just end this.’”

“This is what it really comes down to,” he says. “If this is the way God made me, then this is the way I’m going to live. It’s not like God made me this way and he’ll send me to hell if I am who he created me to be … I really feel closer to God because I no longer hate myself.”
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I feel bad for the guy – he spent decades suppressing his homosexuality because that’s what he was “supposed to do”. Christians like to say it’s just a choice, but getting that heterosexuality to stick on some people seems impossible. (In fact, several prominent ‘ex-gay’ Christians have been caught soliciting gay sex. Whoops.)

Video of Ray Boltz (and more videos here):

Looking around on blogs, plenty of Christians have been very judgmental about his coming-out (surprise!).

Of course, the two options available to Christians aren’t simply: accepting homosexuality, and thinking that homosexuality is “just a choice”. When my oldest brother came out as gay, my parents thought it was some sort of spirit or demon of homosexuality that was plaguing him. They thought that it could be prayed-out. (They never attempted an exorcism, but given their ideas about homosexuality, I don’t know why not – other than an aversion to exorcism.) Again, this attitude and approach to homosexuality seems incredibly naive and ineffective at accomplishing anything. Also, I could never understand why a “loving God” allowed evil spirits/demons to exist. (Did God think it was too easy to get into heaven, so he added a few obstacles? You know – to trip up the people he “loves”?) I think the problem for Christians is that they don’t quite understand how these “bad” homosexual desires can exist. It’s kind of an enigma, and they’re searching for ways to explain it without accepting it (which is a “sin” in their eyes). It also poses a problem for New Testament teachings which state:

Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come! (2 Corinthians 5:17)

Yet, this “new creation” seems remarkably like the old version – complete with the same homosexual desires. (What, Christianity has no transformative power? How can that be?)

Speaking of “just a choice”, I was recently at a coffeeshop when a guy asked me for help connecting to the internet. Turns out that’s he’s gay, and he moved to the US recently – from Iran. Quite a few Middle-Eastern countries kill people for being gay, and the fact that there’s still gay men and women living secret lives in these countries should give Christians pause when they claim it’s “just a choice”. (More on that topic: Struggle for gay rights in the Middle East, Iran: Gay Teens Executed by Hanging)

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