Comments on: Fact Or Fiction: Could Noah’s Ark Really Have Happened?

By: shepherd

shepherd — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 05:50:52 +0000

The Old Testament is an account given to moses by God after the exodus from Egypt. Moses, a meek man is describing to his Clan the history of The Chosen race. A hostory with names familiar to the clans. Geneology and family and there history Was as imprtant as anything to the ancient Hebrews.
HumanKind was created on the 6th day. The Chosen race was a specific race that would eventually beget the messiah or Christ. Moses Account is to the Hebrews of the History of the Chosen Race. The secret missed is that to the Hebrews, all other races were in many places of the old testament called beasts. The Ark inhabitants were Noah and his family, whose decendents in that time were recognizable to the hebrews, as well as other races. to think that other races came from the hebrew line is a false understanding.

By: tinyfrog

tinyfrog — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 05:59:16 +0000

I was raised in a family (and Christian school) which believed in the literal interpretation of Genesis and the belief that the global flood was a historical event. The fact that some Christians don’t believe in a literal flood does not mean I cannot address the idea (still held by many Christians) that a global flood actually happened.

Take a look at the answers to this YahooAnswers question, if you don’t believe me that many Christians continue to believe in a literal flood story:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081229111627AASR6WU

Most of those responses agree that a flood happened. A few quotes:

“Yes, I believe it. Jesus did too. At Matt. 24:37-39, he said: ““When the Son of Man returns, it will be like it was in Noah’s day. 38 In those days before the flood, the people were enjoying banquets and parties and weddings”

“Sure. Why not? Just because you do not understand something doesn’t necessarily make it untrue”

“I believe in everything what Bible says even if it is weird or immposible. But remember, in God’s eyes nothing is immposible. God can do everything.”

“Yes, I do believe that it rained for 40 days and 40 nights, and yes, I believe that Noah not only built an ark where there has never been rain before, and yes, I do believe he not only did that, but he preached righteousness for the 120 years that it took him to build the ark- Remember who created the weather. Not man, but the infinite, creator God.”

“You’re asking Christians yeah? Well is it in the Bible? Then you have your answer. True Followers of Christ follow His Word.”

I wonder how Christians who don’t believe in the flood deal with Matt. 24:37-39, where Jesus mentions the flood and Noah as if they are historical events. Or the lineage of Jesus in Luke, which includes Noah.

> the real debate here is one of trust and authority: “Religious Authority” vs “Scientific Authority”

I reject that argument because its fundamental premise is to simply setup two “authorities” against each other, which leads to questions like “whom do you trust — God or man?” It sidesteps the real arguments and problems in favor of a kind of “argument from authority” – where we are simply supposed to choose between religious and secular “authorities”.

By: Brian

Brian — Fri, 29 May 2009 10:50:36 +0000

Are you seriously considering the possibilities of a global flood and a cargo vessel that might survive it, or are you simply looking for any excuse to try and discredit the Bible? If Bible-bashing is important to you, it seems like maybe you should address the actual text, rather than arbitrary interpretations.

On the other hand, try to remember that history IS interpretation, and the real debate here is one of trust and authority: “Religious Authority” vs “Scientific Authority”. A direct approach to that debate would seem less disingenuous, don’t you think? Clarify the issues, please. Simplify. Try to be careful when lumping all of your distrustful feelings toward ‘religion’ together with the notion of Scripture; and be careful when lumping all of your grand feelings toward ’science’ together with the interpretation of whatever current paradigm it labors under. Pay attention to the distinctions, people!

Creationism does not = Christianity. Religion does not = Magic. Empirical evidence does not = proof. Biblical interpretation does not = Faith.

By: mary e

mary e — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:15:57 +0000

I think that people read the Bible and think of it all literally. They think if it says the sea was split it literally was. The Bible is an interpretation in my opinion. So maybe something similar to the ark happened but not exactly how it is written. You gotta have a little faith in some things and sometimes things are unexplainable.

By: Badger3k

Badger3k — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 06:48:56 +0000

Add in the fact that, even though myth of floods occur in many cultures, they are no means universal. Even just limiting it to myths that detail origin stories (such as previous worlds being destroyed and only a few people surviving), they vary between floods and fires, two things that primitive people had problems with. That’s just going off memory. Talk Origins has a fairly detailed listing.

all flood material: http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-flood.html

flood stories: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html

(the site was incredibly slow to load, so YMMV)

There was some interesting material on the Ark posted at FRDB (formerly the II forums): Here is one:

http://www.freeratio.org/showthread.php?t=53338&highlight=ark+naval+paper

We had some interesting discussions about creatures, reproduction, windows and ventilation, food, etc, plus all the vapor canopy+ fun. Even thermodynamics and the burning of the entire earths atmosphere. A simple search can lead to quite a few threads on the subject, if anyone is interested.

By: TommyP

TommyP — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:54:38 +0000

It really shows just how ignorant of history the bible’s authors were. It’s really amazing that anyone can entertain such an idea these days, though.

By: largetoad

largetoad — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:45:24 +0000

Every time I come to this site I am amazed at the things that are being discussed. I mean, the fantastic things that some people hold dear are absolutely ludicrous. Of course no one built a giant boat with two of every animal. Of course the entire earth didn’t flood. Of course people didn’t routinely live outrageously long lives. Anyone with an ounce of common sense can see how that flies in the face of any and all empirical evidence. It simply doesn’t make any sense, and deep down, everyone knows it isn’t true. The fact that these supposed events need to be debunked in print at all says a lot about the damage a widespread belief in magic has done to the human race. People everywhere need to wake up. It is complete and total nonsense, and it is really annoying. Tiny – Thanks for fighting the (impossibly uphill) battle for me and many others who hold similar beliefs (based on fact!).

By: Jim Strickling

Jim Strickling — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 22:01:07 +0000

Check out what other cultures have recorded about The Flood. A statistical analysis of these presents some interesting results. Also, The notion of a “Vapor Canopy” (that might have caused a flood) based on Genesis is contradicted in the same chapter in which it appears. Check out this discrepancy and a lot of other biblical misconceptions and mysteries in

http://www.eloquentbooks.com/ManAndHisPlanet.html