My parents sent me an “email forward” the other week. It contained the kind of parable you might hear in church. I recognized that types of stories to be overly simplistic and full of unanswered questions, yet church-going folk never asked them (or even consider them). To me, it seemed like everyone was ignoring the elephant in the room, and it was considered impolite to point it out. Anyway, here’s the little story:
The Barber and the barb
A man went to a barbershop to have
His hair cut and his beard trimmed.
As the barber began to work,
They began to have a good conversation.
They talked about so many things
And various subjects.
When they eventually touched on
The subject of God, the barber said:
“I don’t believe that God exists.”
“Why do you say that?”
Asked the customer.
“Well, you just have to go out in
The street to realize that God
Doesn’t exist. Tell me, if God exists,
Would there be so many sick people?
Would there be abandoned children?
If God existed, there would be neither
Suffering nor pain.
I can’t imagine loving a God who
Would allow all of these things.”
The customer thought for a moment,
But didn’t respond because he didn’t
Want to start an argument.
The barber finished his job and the
customer left the shop.
Just after he left the barbershop,
He saw a man in the street with long,
Stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed beard.
He looked dirty and un-kept.
The customer turned back and entered
The barber shop again and he said
To the barber:
“You know what? Barbers do not exist.”
“How can you say that?”
Asked the surprised barber.
“I am here, and I am a barber.
And I just worked on you!”
“No!” the customer exclaimed.
“Barbers don’t exist because
If they did, there would be no
People with dirty long hair
And untrimmed beards,
Like that man outside.”
“Ah, but barbers DO exist!
What happens is, people
Do not come to me.”
“Exactly!”-
Affirmed the customer.
“That’s the point!
God, too, DOES exist!
What happens, is, people
Don’t go to Him
And do not look for Him.
That’s why there’s so much pain
And suffering in the world.”
IF YOU KNOW GOD EXISTS,
Send this to other people—
If you think God doesn’t exist,
Then just delete it!
Now, the thrust of the story is to get Christians to think to themselves, “Yes! This answers the questions of why there is sickness, suffering, and abandoned children. People need to come to God. God is great and He wants to help!” Does that strike anyone else as simplistic? Further, this isn’t the first time I’ve heard Christians attempt to answer the problem of evil as “all you have to do is ask God”. My thoughts about this story are this:
Are there Christians who have prayed and are still sick?
Obviously, there are Christians who have prayed and are still sick. I’ve known strong Christians – Christians involved in the preaching Christianity and helping inner city kids – who have died young. One guy I knew was very Christian and very involved in the church, but he went through several years of fighting cancer before dying in his mid twenties, leaving a widow behind. There are plenty of similar stories. Growing up in a fundamentalist Christian household, I don’t think there were any cases of miraculous healing. Yes, I saw a lot of prayers, but even in the cases when the outcome was positive, it didn’t appear miraculous. I’d estimate that the ratio of positive versus negative outcomes was no different than what you’d see in any community of non-Christians. In other words, praying to the Christian God had no effect. (And, yes, studies support the conclusion that prayer has no effect.)
If God is capable and willing to heal the sick, should Christians cancel their medical insurance?
If God is capable and willing to heal people, then the money Christians spend for medical insurance is wasted on human doctors who are less capable than the God to heal sickness. Even worse, involvement with the medical establishment could be construed as a lack of faith in God’s healing powers. Now, I’m quite sure that Christians could quickly come up with an excuse to buy medical insurance (e.g. God provides people with a way, and that way is doctors and hospitals). Okay, but what about diseases that the current medical establishment can’t cure? I see no evidence of healing in those cases, either. Additionally, when we look at cases where people lacked good medical care (e.g. Third world countries, the West until recent history), we see significantly elevated death rates — women dying in childbirth, children dying of childhood disease, cholera and smallpox killing millions. So, if we assume the medical establishment is “God’s gift to help cure us”, then why doesn’t God step in to fill that gap miraculously when “God hasn’t yet given us” the medical knowledge for a cure?
Christians love to talk about God’s healing, but have learned through experience that doctors, hospitals, and medical research are indispensable. In other words, their personal and cultural experience is that God doesn’t heal — or at the very least, is less dependable than the medical establishment. Yet, the story is supposed to lead us to the unrealistic view that God heals sickness like a barber cuts hair.
I can’t help but wonder how Christians can hear a story like this and not act with some degree of irritation over the simplistic notions inherent in the story. Personally, I can’t help but think, “Do you think through your theology?” Of course, I’m speaking logically here. When it comes to asking these sorts of questions, I think the problem is that Christianity plays a role in their lives that has little to do with explaining things in any real way, and much more to do with the fact that people want to believe. It’s a little bit like trying to discuss the evidence for an afterlife with someone who wants to believe that they’re going to go to heaven, reunite with their family and friends, and live forever in bliss – the whole conversation is too charged with emotions and hope to actually be the least bit productive in any objective sense. They’re too strongly attached to the idea of a happy afterlife to ask any questions that could undermine those cherished beliefs. In the end, even the obviously simplistic and false ideas inherent in “The Barber and the barb” go unquestioned.
Bad things in life are not from God (because God will just good things for people) – God also never say that we just have to pray and evrything will be ok. Sometimes I think we ignore the fact that Satan is also on earth and that these things that you feel unworhty of God is directly from Satan. God never say that he will answer your prayer accoring to your wishes – He will answer them according to His plan and on His time. He did said that if you pray and come to Him, He will walk next to you and carry you – even in your darkest days so that nothing will scare you and that you will come into His Kingdom. That is the good part – He never said that His children will have heaven on earth, but that you will go into His Heavenly kingdom after your life here between the scum of Satan. Your job here is to walk alongside Him sothat He will give you strenght to handle all the bad tidings,AND to bring other people with you to God.
Okay, but what you are saying here is that you agree with my claim that the Barber=God comparison does not hold up. If I go to a barber, I have a pretty high expectation of getting my haircut. If a Christian prays to God, I don’t have much expectation that anything will happen. Yes, I realize that Christians constantly talk themselves into believing that God will intervene. I was once a Christian, and that’s the game you’re supposed to play. Any objective view of God’s prayer-answering ends up being devastating to actual faith. Faith in prayer has to be constantly propped-up with inspirational stories (that are usually false), reading the Bible (that tells you God will act if you have faith), and all kinds of other methods. But, any real reflection on the actual experience of Christians reveals a lot of unanswered prayers, philosophizing about “God works in mysterious ways”, and some occasional positive outcomes that happen to everyone but are reinterpreted as “God answering prayer”. Christians are taught to believe in God’s intervention – taught that God only works when people “have faith”. But, faith doesn’t work. This puts them in a cycle of constantly trying to renew that belief against real-world experience says otherwise.
Also, you agree with my oversimplification claim when you say that God never says that we just have to pray and everything will be ok. Having grown up in the church, I’d say that the chances of a miracle are essentially zero. (I’m not talking about psychological comfort, by the way. Psychological comfort can happen even if God doesn’t exist. For example, if I believe my ancestors spirits are helping me through my pain, I may get some psychological comfort from that belief even though my ancestor’s spirits are not there.) In the end, it seems that even you agree with me that this “barber and the barb” story is an oversimplification and it exaggerates the role that God plays in the world. It does this for the sake of inspiration, but it’s a false view of the world. I think we can both agree on that even if we disagree on other things.
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